PERSPECTIVE – How To Get It On Demand
In this episode John and Kelly talk about the importance of having perspective in life. John gives the example regarding the evolution over the last three years of think it be it. Initially he and Kelly thought think it be it was for everyone. Everyone wants to be successful – right? Wrong. For most people, more success is merely a preference. John says he and Kelly came to appreciate that think it be it is only for people that are driven. Then they discovered a further refinement. It’s for people that really want to play at their full potential, rather than play the game of life at 10 to 20% of their potential – as most people do. Gaining this perspective had such an effect on John. At first he was frustrated. But over the last year, he’s more enthused than ever with the direction of think it be it. Simply from having perspective regarding who it’s really for. Kelly talks about having perspective in her recruitment business. And the impact that the pandemic had on giving her perspective. At the end of the podcast John talks about how to get perspective. Either through outside input or from using our technique of deep thinking two times a week. And how one can gain perspective by articulating in one’s 12 minute a day technique to do one’s “deep thinking” around gaining perspective.
About the Hosts:
John Mitchell
John’s story is pretty amazing. After spending 20 years as an entrepreneur, John was 50 years old but wasn’t as successful as he thought he should be. To rectify that, he decided to find the “top book in the world” on SUCCESS and apply that book literally Word for Word to his life. That Book is Think & Grow Rich. The book says there’s a SECRET for success, but the author only gives you half the secret. John figured out the full secret and a 12 minute a day technique to apply it.
When John applied his 12 minute a day technique to his life, he saw his yearly income go to over $5 million a year, after 20 years of $200k – 300k per year. The 25 times increase happened because John LEVERAGED himself by applying science to his life.
His daily technique works because it focuses you ONLY on what moves the needle, triples your discipline, and consistently generates new business ideas every week. This happens because of 3 key aspects of the leveraging process.
John’s technique was profiled on the cover of Time Magazine. He teaches it at the University of Texas’ McCombs School of Business, which is one the TOP 5 business schools in the country. He is also the “mental coach” for the head athletic coaches at the University of Texas as well.
Reach out to John at john@thinkitbeit.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-mitchell-76483654/
Kelly Hatfield
Kelly Hatfield is an entrepreneur at heart. She believes wholeheartedly in the power of the ripple effect and has built several successful companies aimed at helping others make a greater impact in their businesses and lives.
She has been in the recruiting, HR, and leadership development space for over 25 years and loves serving others. Kelly, along with her amazing business partners and teams, has built four successful businesses aimed at matching exceptional talent with top organizations and developing their leadership. Her work coaching and consulting with companies to develop their leadership teams, design recruiting and retention strategies, AND her work as host of Absolute Advantage podcast (where she talks with successful entrepreneurs, executives, and thought leaders across a variety of industries), give her a unique perspective covering the hiring experience and leadership from all angles.
As a Partner in her most recent venture, Think It Be It, Kelly has made the natural transition into the success and human achievement field, helping entrepreneurs break through to the next level in their businesses. Further expanding the impact she’s making in this world. Truly living into the power of the ripple effect.
Reach out to Kelly at kelly@thinkitbeit.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-hatfield-2a2610a/
Learn more about Think It Be It at https://thinkitbeit.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/think-it-be-it-llc
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Transcript
We believe life is precious. This is it. We've
Kelly Hatfield:got one shot at this. It's on us to live life to the fullest to
Kelly Hatfield:maximize what we've been given and play the game of life at our
Kelly Hatfield:full potential.
John Mitchell:Are you living up to your potential? Are you
John Mitchell:frustrated that despite your best intentions, you just can't
John Mitchell:seem to make the changes needed to take things to the next
John Mitchell:level. So you can impact your career relationships and health.
Kelly Hatfield:If this is hitting home, you're in the
Kelly Hatfield:right place. Our mission is to open the door to the exceptional
Kelly Hatfield:life by showing you how to play the game of life at a higher
Kelly Hatfield:level. So you're playing at your full potential, rather than at a
Kelly Hatfield:fraction as most people do. We'll share the one thing that
Kelly Hatfield:once we learned it, our lives were transformed. And once you
Kelly Hatfield:learn it, watch what happens. Welcome to think it be the
Kelly Hatfield:podcast. I'm Kelly Hatfield.
John Mitchell:Hey, it I'm John Michell. So the topic today is
John Mitchell:perspective, the value of having perspective, and also how to get
John Mitchell:it. So what do you think about that? Kelly?
Kelly Hatfield:I think it's so important, I think the value of
Kelly Hatfield:perspective, you can immediately shift your state, shift your
Kelly Hatfield:when you put things into perspective, and most likely,
Kelly Hatfield:you're not quite as bad as you think, as they see me as you
Kelly Hatfield:think they are when you use perspective as a tool to do
Kelly Hatfield:that. So I'm excited to dig in and talk about this today, John,
John Mitchell:right. Right. Well, you know, I tell you,
John Mitchell:it's, it's interesting. I gave you an example in, in my life,
John Mitchell:the power of perspective. And, and of course, you've lived
John Mitchell:through this with me, but yeah, you know, what, but three or
John Mitchell:four years ago, you and I create our course, and we're like, man,
John Mitchell:everybody's gonna want to do this. Everybody wants to be more
John Mitchell:successful, we got a 12 minute a day technique, we're gonna crush
John Mitchell:it. So if we go, well, we don't crush it. We're like, you know,
John Mitchell:why aren't people you know, lining up for this. And, you
John Mitchell:know, I think back to you know, I know, I told the story about
John Mitchell:meeting Darren Hardy and, and showing him all this in our
John Mitchell:template and our told me today technique, and you guys, John,
John Mitchell:people are aren't going to do this, they're not gonna spend 12
John Mitchell:minutes today on on this. And, and he says, reason is because
John Mitchell:for most people more success is merely a preference, merely a
John Mitchell:preference. And he says, You got to show this only driven people.
John Mitchell:And I remember him telling me that I'm like, Really, I you
John Mitchell:know, okay, you know, more than I do about this, but I just find
John Mitchell:that hard to believe. Well, he's exactly right. And so yeah, we
John Mitchell:come out, we create our course. And, and we sell it, but it's
John Mitchell:not near as many as we thought. And then we're like, Hmm, well,
John Mitchell:maybe. Maybe we need to really just vet people for being high
John Mitchell:achievers. And, and that seemed right. And it evolved to where
John Mitchell:we started doing coaching in conjunction with our course. And
John Mitchell:so we go to start, not not aggressively marketing it, but
John Mitchell:going to EO groups, entrepreneurs, organization,
John Mitchell:graves, were to be in the, in the group, they've got to have a
John Mitchell:business, that's grossing a million dollars a year. And, but
John Mitchell:only 5% of them are netting a million a year. And you and I
John Mitchell:both think, wow, you know, this is perfect, because they're just
John Mitchell:like you and me, were, you know, a few years ago, and we start
John Mitchell:pitching it and, and people are taking us up on it, but but
John Mitchell:they're not lining out the door for it. And, you know, I know,
John Mitchell:both of us felt, you know, frustration a year or two ago,
John Mitchell:like a couple years ago, and then we sort of have a change of
John Mitchell:perspective, maybe maybe the change of perspective came from
John Mitchell:just dialing in to what is reality, telling us and, you
John Mitchell:know, then it it became more obvious. Okay, not only do you
John Mitchell:have to only show this to people that are driven, you need to
John Mitchell:show this to people that that innately want to play the game
John Mitchell:of life at 100% That That alone is the driver and have control
John Mitchell:over their life not necessarily A the money. And and you know, I
John Mitchell:see today I'm more excited and happy with with think be it than
John Mitchell:I've ever been. And it's happened from that change of
John Mitchell:perspective that's evolved over the last probably three years?
John Mitchell:And it just says that all makes sense.
Kelly Hatfield:It does and what was the so for you when you're
Kelly Hatfield:talking about perspective, when I think about perspective, I
Kelly Hatfield:immediately, you know, when we were talking a little bit about
Kelly Hatfield:this before we started recording, you know, I
Kelly Hatfield:immediately went to if, you know, like today, we're having a
Kelly Hatfield:roof repaired on one of our rentals, you know, and it's
Kelly Hatfield:like, you know, that wasn't an expense I was planning on. And
Kelly Hatfield:then I watched the news. And you know, in the Midwest, there's
Kelly Hatfield:tornadoes ripping through and their roofs ripped off their
Kelly Hatfield:homes, and I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna get the roof.
John Mitchell:Maybe this isn't the end of the world,
Kelly Hatfield:maybe this isn't that big of a deal. You know? So
Kelly Hatfield:immediately, when I think of perspective, that's kind of
Kelly Hatfield:where my mind goes, is the, it could be worse, kind of, yeah,
Kelly Hatfield:you know, so and so when you're talking about perspective,
Kelly Hatfield:you're talking about it from a different vantage point than I
Kelly Hatfield:think, when we first went into the conversation, then I was
Kelly Hatfield:thinking,
John Mitchell:well, and you know, think about this, I see
John Mitchell:that gaining perspective happens one of two ways, either a comes
John Mitchell:from the outside input of somebody else, or it, it comes
John Mitchell:from you sitting down and thinking through something like
John Mitchell:having lay, if I've got a challenge in my life, say with
John Mitchell:the business, me just sitting down and thinking through what
John Mitchell:is the challenge? How do I fix the challenge? What do I need
John Mitchell:more information, you know, and I see that, that, that, that was
John Mitchell:thinking sessions can be how you gain perspective, in fact, you
John Mitchell:can almost act as as your own consultant for your business.
John Mitchell:And you're sort of the ideal consultant for your business,
John Mitchell:because you know, all the nuances that a consultant
John Mitchell:doesn't know. And, you know, if you just ask yourself in your
John Mitchell:thinking session, to act as your own consultant, and lo and
John Mitchell:you're looking at your business from that third party
John Mitchell:perspective, oftentimes, just that change your perspective can
John Mitchell:cause you to see things that you won't see if you don't take that
John Mitchell:outside perspective. And
Kelly Hatfield:100%, I asked myself, like, as part of if I'm
Kelly Hatfield:having a challenge, working through a challenge, if I'm, if
Kelly Hatfield:I have an issue, and I'm having trouble working through it, one
Kelly Hatfield:of your superpowers is simplifying what may seem to
Kelly Hatfield:others as being complicated. So I will ask myself, What would
Kelly Hatfield:John tell me to do? Today, Hey, stupid just.
John Mitchell:Now Kelly, I think that's a very dangerous
John Mitchell:thing to be asking yourself. So I would really be careful with
John Mitchell:that.
Kelly Hatfield:To the point where you were just saying it
Kelly Hatfield:pulls me out of myself, right? It would I mean, and makes it
Kelly Hatfield:external and makes me think about it from a different
Kelly Hatfield:perspective or viewpoint because I'm too close to it, or too
Kelly Hatfield:emotional about whatever it is. And so when I asked myself that
Kelly Hatfield:question, then it's like, Okay, what's a simple way of thinking
Kelly Hatfield:about this, you know, is really what I'm asking myself because,
Kelly Hatfield:as I mentioned, that is one of your superpowers. So it's like,
Kelly Hatfield:Okay, what's, how do I simplify this? You know, I think I've
Kelly Hatfield:overcomplicated this or have I overcomplicated this? You know,
Kelly Hatfield:so it's, it's that outside perspective? And that's the
Kelly Hatfield:question I asked myself is what would How would John think about
Kelly Hatfield:this? And that helps me work through it.
John Mitchell:Right, that could also get you in prison, but But
John Mitchell:you know, it's funny, we've canceled himself Kelly, you're
John Mitchell:gonna have to shut down this business. You know, it was a
John Mitchell:good run. But you did what John suggested then you're done.
John Mitchell:Well, you know, it's funny how that I see that that
John Mitchell:subconsciously worse because before we got on the air, just a
John Mitchell:little perspective. I'm creating a new course at the University
John Mitchell:of Texas that's going to be required of all the the 800
John Mitchell:athletes to take and we're gonna teach him think it be it better,
John Mitchell:but I'm gonna go deeper on a number of things because I have,
John Mitchell:you know, a whole semester to teach him and I I was telling
John Mitchell:Kelly, the, the titles of the the course the two titles,
John Mitchell:because I'm too close to it to have perspective. And so I'm
John Mitchell:blazing really close to what she's telling me and she gives
John Mitchell:me her opinion, which, you know, was completely contrary to what
John Mitchell:ginger told me is Ginger about it, and she, she didn't like it.
John Mitchell:And so but that's the power of getting the wisdom of somebody
John Mitchell:on the outside to, to give you their opinion. And, and like I
John Mitchell:was telling you. Tomorrow, I'm gonna go see one of the faculty
John Mitchell:members in the business school at University of Texas. And and
John Mitchell:I've got the syllabus written and he's going to review it. And
John Mitchell:you know, the reality is, I could think, all day long on how
John Mitchell:to get this thing approved and move it forward. But I don't
John Mitchell:have his knowledge. And so sometimes solving a problem
John Mitchell:requires defining what knowledge do you not have? And where can I
John Mitchell:go to get it? Yep, absolutely. So what's that tell it tell his
John Mitchell:story in your business about where perspective changed and
John Mitchell:the impact you had? Yeah,
Kelly Hatfield:I think the very first thing that comes to mind
Kelly Hatfield:is just having gone through the pandemic, you know, so in March
Kelly Hatfield:of 2020, we're rockin and rollin, you know, two of my
Kelly Hatfield:brands that I have are related to hiring, staffing, recruiting.
Kelly Hatfield:Well, of course, you know, what happened when everything shut
Kelly Hatfield:down? Jobs stopped, you know, and so, it was overnight, it was
Kelly Hatfield:within a week's time of kind of the shutdown, that revenue
Kelly Hatfield:stopped, you know, and it was like, you know, you know, so
Kelly Hatfield:going into that solution mode, but a couple of things. So the
Kelly Hatfield:first thing, as far as perspective was, we had to look
Kelly Hatfield:at doing business differently. And so one of those is obviously
Kelly Hatfield:our employees working remotely, which is something we talked
Kelly Hatfield:about for years, but it was like, Oh, we don't know how
Kelly Hatfield:we're gonna, like, I don't know, whether I want to do that I
Kelly Hatfield:like, you know, and so we just always back burnered It, well,
Kelly Hatfield:we were forced overnight to go remote, you know, and so our
Kelly Hatfield:perspective change quickly, around, you know, a meeting to
Kelly Hatfield:operate and change how we went about doing business, you know,
Kelly Hatfield:and to ask different questions of ourselves, like, okay, so
Kelly Hatfield:this is happening. So, you know, what is? Are there other ways
Kelly Hatfield:that we, how can we use this time that we have, you know, so
Kelly Hatfield:we worked on processes we worked on, you know, of course, we took
Kelly Hatfield:advantage of the PPP so that we can keep our employees are most
Kelly Hatfield:of them anyway, but, um, you know, but how I use it now. So
Kelly Hatfield:this goes back to kind of my example of the roofing issue,
Kelly Hatfield:right, is when a challenge comes up now. I'm like, we went
Kelly Hatfield:through the pandemic, this is no big deal.
John Mitchell:That's a heck of a perspective.
Kelly Hatfield:Yeah. So it totally shifts your perspective
Kelly Hatfield:on like, if we can, and before that, like, we started the
Kelly Hatfield:business 14 years ago, in the depths of a recession. So it was
Kelly Hatfield:kind of always, like, we started this business, in a recession.
Kelly Hatfield:So um, you know, so that was kind of always our, our
Kelly Hatfield:perspective piece when we were going through difficult times.
Kelly Hatfield:And now it's like, literally, we went through a worldwide
Kelly Hatfield:pandemic, you know, where many of our competitors didn't make
Kelly Hatfield:it. And, you know, and so if we did that we couldn't do
Kelly Hatfield:anything. So for us, it was a real confidence builder. And
Kelly Hatfield:that's how we choose, we've chosen to use that as just fuel
Kelly Hatfield:for positivity, like, yeah, these are really lofty goals,
Kelly Hatfield:but look at what we've made it through, you know, so anyway,
Kelly Hatfield:that's how that perspective comes into play. For me anyway,
Kelly Hatfield:that was the first example that jumped out at me,
John Mitchell:right? Well, you know, I know in in terms of how
John Mitchell:to apply our 12 minute day technique to this. I know in in,
John Mitchell:in my visualization, I say something to the effect that all
John Mitchell:challenges can be figured out either through outside input or
John Mitchell:thinking through them is one of those two things and, and that
John Mitchell:has been so incredibly helpful to me just that, that that you
John Mitchell:know, synods because now, I look at everything very binary. It's
John Mitchell:either I need to think about it, or I need outside input. And,
John Mitchell:and, you know, I see every, every problem fits into those,
John Mitchell:one of those two things. So,
Kelly Hatfield:no, I love that and and you're so specific,
Kelly Hatfield:which is so important because this methodology requires that
Kelly Hatfield:level of specificity, specificity, right? If If I were
Kelly Hatfield:somebody who was just starting, like when I first started to get
Kelly Hatfield:into this, so if you were looking for like a light
Kelly Hatfield:version, and you didn't have a whole process, a great way like
Kelly Hatfield:I, this goes through my head 20 times a day because it's part of
Kelly Hatfield:my visualization, which is the quality of the questions you ask
Kelly Hatfield:yourself and others determines the quality of your life. So
Kelly Hatfield:when I'm going through a challenge, I'm right away going
Kelly Hatfield:into how should I be looking at this? How else? What are? What's
Kelly Hatfield:another way I could look at this situation? What's up because
Kelly Hatfield:your brain will start to go to work on the solutions? Who else
Kelly Hatfield:should I ask about this? Right? So like I am, anytime a
Kelly Hatfield:challenge comes up or whatever, I'm just asking myself the how,
Kelly Hatfield:what I don't ask myself, why a lot, because that kind of takes
Kelly Hatfield:you because that can take you into a negative place. So I'm
Kelly Hatfield:asking how, what, and when questions of myself when I'm
Kelly Hatfield:looking at that. So that's one way so I would put that, like,
Kelly Hatfield:it's a mantra that I have the quality of the questions I asked
Kelly Hatfield:myself and others determines the quality of my life. And that's
Kelly Hatfield:just running through my head on you know, so I've got it up. I
Kelly Hatfield:used to I don't anymore up on my mirror in my bathroom. It's up
Kelly Hatfield:on my phone. It's a screensaver on a lake. So just as a reminder
Kelly Hatfield:to continue to program my subconscious to be asking myself
Kelly Hatfield:questions, meaningful questions. And that often gets you to what
Kelly Hatfield:we're talking about with perspective, but a simpler way
Kelly Hatfield:to go about doing it.
John Mitchell:Right. Right. Right. Well, and you know,
John Mitchell:again, I, I just, I was just thinking about this the other
John Mitchell:day. You know, ginger, and I were having our Sunday night
John Mitchell:relationship talk. And I was telling her really two things I
John Mitchell:was saying, you know, how I love mentally where where I'm at with
John Mitchell:regards to think it be it and, and the evolution of it. Whereas
John Mitchell:a couple of years ago, I was frustrated. Well, of course, I
John Mitchell:was frustrated because I was pitching it to, to people that
John Mitchell:weren't ideal for it. And whatever you whatever your
John Mitchell:product is in your business, you got to really be clear about who
John Mitchell:is my ideal client, because if you're pitching to people that
John Mitchell:are not really your ideal client, you're going to be
John Mitchell:frustrated. And and what a difference that perspective has
John Mitchell:made. And, and you know, I was telling ginger last night, you
John Mitchell:know, she I think I told you she broke her hand.
Unknown:Yep. Pickleball pickleball. Right.
John Mitchell:It was a tragic pickleball Yeah. And so, but she
John Mitchell:broke a bone in her hand and so she had to have surgery about
John Mitchell:three weeks ago and she just got the cast off a couple of days
John Mitchell:ago. And of course, I've lived this with her and it was her
John Mitchell:right hand which made all the worse and and I'm like ginge you
John Mitchell:know now just just chill because I'm, I'm the big picture guy.
John Mitchell:She's the as you know, the, the detail warrior in the group.
John Mitchell:Yep. And, and I said now, just let's get back to we're living
John Mitchell:the dream. You know, everyday we're living the dream. Let's
John Mitchell:save her let's, and she's like, Yes, I needed to hear that. And,
John Mitchell:and so again, perspective.
Kelly Hatfield:Yep, absolutely. I love that. So,
John Mitchell:okay, well, I hope you guys found this
John Mitchell:interesting. So until next time, we'll see you.
Kelly Hatfield:Thanks for listening today. If you've had
Kelly Hatfield:your own aha moment from today's episode, send me or John an
Kelly Hatfield:email. We'd love to share your epiphany with our audience. So
Kelly Hatfield:email us at Kelly@thinkitbeit.com or
Kelly Hatfield:John@thinkitbeit.com. In the meantime, live the exceptional life